GIJoel's Rowdy Rants ([info]gijoel666) wrote,
@ 2008-10-15 22:45:00
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The final debate
Holy cow, I actually disagree with Rachel Maddow about something!  She said she thought this was McCain's worst debate of the three.  I thought it was his best.  Of course, that doesn't say much for how he did in the first two, and I thought the second ("that one") was his worst. 

McCain again came out very strong in the first half.  While he didn't convince me his ideas were right on dealing with the economic crisis, he at least sounded like he had some command of what he was talking about, didn't stumble too much, and got the last word in for much of that discussion, which will leave a strong impression with some viewers who are desperately hoping he would provide them some excuse to vote against Obama.  But he again bogged down in the second half, and he did himself no good whatsoever bringing up Bill Ayers, and probably hurt himself plenty with his thrust on the abortion issue.  And McCain's mention of the Washington, D.C. school voucher program scored him no points, because anyone who knows that issue knows that community's education success rate does not benefit overall from letting 1,000 underprivileged kids go to school with rich kids, and it still sucks mightily and is a major reason that only about 20 square blocks in the center of that city are safe to walk around.  And that droning about "Joe the Plumber" really numbed the senses by the finish.  McCain's positions are so weak that Obama didn't even have to bother saying what he really thought of Sarah Palin when asked directly.

Finally, if Sen. McCain says "I don't care about an old washed-up terrorist", then why does he still bother claiming "we need to know the full extent of that relationship"?  He contradicts himself within the same sentence, and thinks viewers won't notice? And he knows damn well that Obama has already given the full answer, and knows it's entirely innocuous, so getting the question asked in the debate doesn't gain him anything other than to reinforce the accusation for the wackos in his party who hate enough not to bother listening to the answer, which presumably gains him no new votes, and doesn't cement a block large enough to elect him.  Well, I guess he just had to take the dare rather than back down from it.  Real mature.



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Stick a fork in him...
[info]meldeiry
2008-10-16 04:14 am UTC (link)
...McCain's done. One of the CNN polls asked people whether they care about Ayers. 23% said a great deal, 51% said NOT AT ALL.

I hate to do victory laps before election day, but I just don't see what arrows McCain has left.

DONE.

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Re: Stick a fork in him...
[info]bricap
2008-10-18 05:16 am UTC (link)
You have way too much faith in the electorate.

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Re: Stick a fork in him...
[info]meldeiry
2008-10-19 12:13 am UTC (link)
I hope you're wrong, but I worry that you could be right. Something could still happen to change the dynamic, but there are a few reasons why I'm optimistic:

1) McCain's campaign is complete mess; he lurches from position to attack to other attack to other position to suspending his campaign to telling Letterman that he screwed up for suspending it.
2) Obama is running the smartest, most sophisticated campaign of all time. He's outspending the hell out of McCain everywhere where it matters, and he's a genius at campaigning. He might be a more gifted politician than Clinton or Reagan.
3) The whole election is being fought on McCain's turf. He has to turn every battleground state, including a few where Obama's up 8 points. He has to do that with limited campaign resources, and without a coherent message.
4) Obama's got all the bases covered. His ground game might be under-represented in the polls, and he seems to be doing a remarkable job of getting out the early vote, especially among blacks and college students.
5) They're saying Colin Powell might actually endorse Obama on "Meet the Press" tomorrow. I think that would sway some independents.

So the only way I can see McCain winning is if something crazy happens, or because of the Brady Effect. He seems to have too big of a lead for that to make a difference this year, and I think the pollsters are better at accounting for it now.

I just wish the election were tomorrow. I'm afraid the voters will wake up the day before the election and realize, "Oh my God, I almost voted for a black man!". I'll be so incredibly disheartened if McCain wins.

Check out this website, maybe it'll make you feel better:

www.fivethirtyeight.com.

Fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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